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Roan and Rabicano by Colourize-Stock Roan and Rabicano by Colourize-Stock
So... Roan and rabicano. Nothing to add there, just wanted to clarify:

These are not stock, and may not be used as such. Do not repost it anywhere, and do not claim as your own.
It is just a reference sheet, and may not be used as anything but that.


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CherriesNBerries Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013
added your artwork here: helsinki-warmblood.deviantart.…
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SilverArabian Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The very last horse (Welsh mare) is stunning! I've never seen a horse with such loud rabicano markings before - most have the tail but very little roaning. You always take/find really good pictures for your reference pages :D
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013
Yeah, she was a very special pony. I thought that she was a classic roan at first glance, but then realized that she actually wasn't. Very odd mare indeed!

Thanks a lot! Most of these sheets are extremy outdated and should need to be updated, but I've had very little time for that recently.
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Whisperah Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hrmm...I have a bay roan tobiano (he's a Paint x QH), but after reading this I'm wondering if he's actually a bay rabicano tobiano? He's got the coloured head, chest and flank shields, but his flank shields are roaned, whereas his chest shield only has like 10 white hairs...do you think that he could be a rabicano? :shrug:
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Erosaf Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
wow!! had to use as a reference for this: [link]

Thank you for putting this up!!
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Antique-Unicorn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012  Student General Artist
I have a blue roan mare :) shes confused for a grey all the time!
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Antique-Unicorn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012  Student General Artist
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this is she!
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slime-stock Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2012
Ya ever see a chocolate roan?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
Nope, don't think I have actually... Silver in itself is pretty rare here, and few breeds have both silver and true roan. Icelandics are fairly common though and have both genes, but I've never seen one myself unfortunatly...:/
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slime-stock Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
[link] Meeeeet Ace! :D He's a chocolate roan :3

Ugh I love Icelandics, please please find more of them! D:
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2012
Now isn't that a stunning one!:D

Haha, I'll try:P There are plenty of them, but I just haven't managed to actually get a photo of that many...
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slime-stock Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2012
:D isn't he?!

;___; Can you also bring one with you overseas to me?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
Haha, I promise I'll try to bring one ith me hen I arrive!;)
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slime-stock Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
Gud, gud! Bring Dragster too!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
Oh, I shall! I bet Draggie want to go on a small trip!^^ Not sure ho on eath I should have him stay still on an ariplane, but I suppose there are plenty of drugs for that... :XD:
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TannerIsLove Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012  Student General Artist
The jumping pony on top is a brown, characterized by a mealy muzzle and lighter, tannish soft-spots...
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2012
Ah, that one! The thing is that it's shot in a really tricky lighting, and I suppose since it's a small photo it's difficult to see exactly how he looks like. In real life he was a pretty typical bay though. Dark hue, but definitely not brown.
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MakiTokito Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just have to ask your opinion on this, some people consider both bay and strawberry roans to be red roans and therefore the same thing. What is your opinion on this? Do you believe they are the same or different?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012
I'd say that a red roan is a chestnut one - not a bay one. I believe that a lot of people just look at the shade of the horse and call it whatever they think it looks like, and it wasn't that long ago that some associasions still registrated both bay and chestnut roans as the same thing. But the correct term is still to separate Red Roan and Bay Roan, depending on the base coat of the horse.
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MakiTokito Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay thank you! Yea I pretty much say it's like someone saying they are the same are like saying a chestnut and a bay are the same. I don't really think they are the same.
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Magnamity27 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011
That's so coool! I learned that a horse at my barn is a Rabicano!
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tlh-sparra Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The "liver chestnut roan" -- have you considered the possibility of her being a silver bay roan?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011
Thanks for the input!
I did concider that at first, but since the horse has visibly lighter legs in that typical chestnut way and does not seem to have any silver gene in the pedigree I ruled that out at a very early stage. None of her offspring have inherited it either.
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tlh-sparra Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aha, gotcha! I couldn't see the fetlocks in the picture. She's beautiful, regardless! :heart:
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MissTamaraBlack Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2011
Can you find out what colour my horse is:clap:
I always thougt he's a roan, but now i'm doubting ;D
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2011
Sure! Do you got a photo of him?
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MissTamaraBlack Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2011
Sure, lots of!
I'll send you an PM :)
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iDoomz Featured By Owner May 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm.. No one has noticed it but you spelt Chestnut wrong under strawberry roan xD but as always lovely guides. they help with my genetic work on rpg sites :P
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
I did? Oh, I didn't even notice...:/ Hm, I'll try to fix hat asap. Thanks for pointing out!;)
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iDoomz Featured By Owner May 21, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're quite welcome! XD Thats what makes us human so you're all right!
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GoldEagleGraphics Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2010
Could you tell me what this marking is (the white spot)? [link] I don't know what it is and I don't think it's rabicano because it's only there, do you know?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
it's quite difficult to say what causes it. Doesn't look like rabicano, just as you say. I cannot come up with a correct term for that kind of "marking", nor do I know exactly what causes it. There are so many genes involved in equine colours, patterns and markings that it's sometimes near to impossible to say exactly what causes some of the many different colors and markings.
It may of course also be caused by trauma - like a burn, bite or rub, where the hair just grow out white once the wound is healed. A mare I rode for a few years had lots of strange white markings at the withers, which turned out to be caused bu a saddle that had been rubbing up a few wounds there when she was young.
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GoldEagleGraphics Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Well thanks anyway :). It could be a scar because he has a lot (he was shipped across the country in a trailer with lots of other horses from New Mexico before he was "rescued") but it doesn't have any other visible scar there besides the white, and it would be a weird place to have had the hair rubbed off. He does have a white scar on his forehead but there is an actual scar there. He's also kind of old (20ish) so I have noticed a few while hairs else where on his body, though not like that. I suppose maybe it could have been a burn as he was branded though I don't know how they brand horses nowadays.
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painted-cowgirl Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2010
Oh my...i owned a Rabicano and didnt even know it...he was a awesome barrel and rope horse...was like a charger coming out of the gate, or round a barrel, just all power...
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kay115 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2010
This has got me thinking. That pony with the grey effect on her mane is kind of like my horse... I've never thought about it before. He's here [link]
Do you think it could be the same thing? I've always thought it was just the roan gene affecting it, but who knows?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2010
hm... definitely looks like the same thing. It could of course be caused entierly by the roan gene, but just pretty uncommon among roans. I've never seen it in another true roan before, so it sort of confused me:P
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WSTopDeck Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think the chestnut roan with the gray mane may actually be a silver bay, wheras the bay roan in kay115's pic is displaying common mane frosting seen in roans.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2010
ah, yes I thought so as well first, but having seen her in real life, had a look at her foals and pedigree, and compared to others made me rule out the silver bay option. Would you like me to find a few photos of her though? Because I may of course be wrong and a second oppinion is always good to get!:)
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WSTopDeck Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That would be great! :) It could just be the lighting, but something about the way the face is colored strikes me as being 'off' for a liver chestnut ^^
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2010
ok, so that obviously didn't work. Let's try with direct links instead!
[link] [link] [link] [link] [link] [link] [link] [link]
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2010
ok, so here are a few, shot during 3 different shows over the past year.
[link]=DSC_7544.jpg&newest=1 [link]=DSC_1819.jpg&newest=1 [link]=DSC_7554.jpg&newest=1 [link]=DSC_7573.jpg&newest=1 [link] [link] [link]
Quite a jumper... She's what... 1,30m something? And jumps 1,10, if not more!^^

Let me know what you think of her color!:)
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WSTopDeck Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cute jumper for sure! You said you have some pedigree info on her? It's hard, I think she could be either, it depends on the light in some of the photos ^^ The face color still makes me think bay based though...
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2010
hm... I HAD some predigree info anyway. Can't seem to find it though. I think she got a chestnut foal (also roan) a few years back - which, of course, only tells us that she's got at least one chestnut gene. The other one could just as well be black+agouti.
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Justalittlelost Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2009
These are extremely helpful.

If i haven't already told you that. As a color guide.
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hyenadon Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2009   Digital Artist
Geez where do you learn all this? I'm awed by your knowledge of genes; I'd like to learn more about them including the expressions Aa/eE etc.

I'm loving these guides!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2009
hehe, experience, breeders and the almight internet!;)
hm... I never went into adding the letters and other details, since I just wanted to make something simple that people could look at. I could of course try to add that to the sheets and update them once I get the time.
If you don't want to wait, or would like to read a more detailed discription of how it works, I suggest having a look here: [link] [link]
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hyenadon Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2009   Digital Artist
Ahh ok! I don't mind if you add them to the sheets or not; the links should explain most of it (if I don't get confused first! ;) )
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The-strawberry-tree Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
Wow that is really interesting! I read it all! :aww: :+fav:
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blackstallion681 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
Thank you so much for making these sheets, they are so informative!!
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zarhx Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
Through these guides, you are educating me. xD I've always wanted to learn more about horse colorations, and you're giving that to me. (:
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