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Starting on the big quest to update these old things! So hre we go!

And as I've said before: Do not redistribute, do not post anywhere and do not in any way alter or adapt and reupload. This is not a free stock picture.


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CherriesNBerries Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013
added your artwork here: helsinki-warmblood.deviantart.…
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Faelin808 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah ha, I had never heard of the 'fake' dorsal stripes but that makes sense! My bay thoroughbred has a fake dorsal stripe :XD:
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SnowStorm-Stable Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
What about a Dunskin? Or is that just like the Bay Dun?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 10, 2013
Dunskin is Buckskin + dun, so not the same as bay dun. I just didn't have room to include all the different combinations of Dun. Might add it later though!
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SnowStorm-Stable Featured By Owner May 10, 2013
Ah okay ^^ Just wanted to make sure
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
how do you know a horse has the dun gene if white (Tovero) covers his feet and shoulders? I see the dorsal stripe and the true dorsal stripe but his legs and withers are covered by the Tovero gene.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
The color of the body should be a slightly "muted" color if compared to non-dun horses of the same color. Of rather - it is oftenly slithly muted or a little diluted, but there are of course exceptions, and sometimes it's just a little difficult to see the difference. If you could see a very distinct true dorsal stripe and a little diluted coat, then it might be an indication of dun. The head is oftenly a little darker than the major part of the body, as well.
To fully know if it's a dun and it has a lot of white, a test might be the way to go though.
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
what do you mean by test?...
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
A DNA test:) You take a hair sample and send to a lab, and they tell you if the horse is genetic dun or not:P
Most of the time it's possible to tell withou testing though.
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
lol, I live in Georgia.
The vets don't know how to heal a horse's foot so they put it down! D'=
No DNA tests... I'll check his markings the next time I go ride!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
Ah, well the vet fortunatly don't need to take the test. You just order one online, pick a few hair from the horse and sent it to the lab. A few weeks later you got the result;) I've tested two horses for other things that way - very easy to do! The lab is a serious one and you could trust the result:)
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
He's for sure a dun! His dorsal stripe is perfectly visible and it extends nicely into the tail.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 10, 2013
Well, in that case there's no need to depend on the other caracteristics:) If it's a really distinctive, clear dorsa stripe with sharp edges and not a false one, it's probably enough to tell that it's a dun:)
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celinaclraw Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm not completely sure, but I think the fjord foal you have to the right is rødblakk(maybe with one yellow gene, or just light bacause it's so young) =P
Gulblakk usually don't have the dark stripe so visible if you see here: [link]
This one's a rødblakk I think: [link]
Now... take it with a pinch of salt, I'm no good at genetics, but I've studied and seen a lot of Fjords... xD
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 1, 2013
I wrote Gul? Ah heck, that's definitely one that should be changed:P I uploaded this for the first time ago but I really thought that I had checked everything enough times by now to notice missplaced terms and colors. Apparantly, it's not so... :XD:
But you are correct - that's another one that should be corrected!;)
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jenniferhilmoe Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013  Student Filmographer
Do you happen to know what causes false dorsal stripes since it's not a dun gene? My mare is bay and has a dorsal stripe. I've always found it odd. On a side note, I've always wondered if she would be considered a seal bay or just a bay? This is her:
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Also, this has had me wondering for a while. Is this mare black or just a really dark bay?
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I could swear that if you look closely at her body you can see hints of red, while her legs stay black. But I'm not sure. Her owner refers to her as "black" and she's registered as a black Morgan. But I could SWEAR I see red hairs in there. I've read that many "black" horses are actually just super dark bays. Do dark bays get classified as black?

Thanks!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013
False dorsal stripes aren't uncommon in bay and brown horses. They don't even have to be sooty to have one, so exactly what's causing it I'm not sure of. There isn't any known specific gene that causes it though.
I'd call her a dark bay, judging by that photo:)

Judging by the photo of the black horse, I'd call her black. Bu then again, I've only seen that specific photo, and a single photo can actually look quite different depending on what screen you have:P
A black horse doesn't have to be extremly black. Some stay completely jet black, while some get slightly bleached or fade a little. Compare with this friesian: [link]
and another: [link]
Another: [link]
And a black young arabian: [link]
IMO the horse in the photo is black, but then again - I've only seen a photo;)
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jenniferhilmoe Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013  Student Filmographer
Alright, thanks :D And from what I've seen of her in real life, she mimics what those black horses' coats are doing, so that really answers my question well. Thanks again!
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ksavvyx3 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Very interesting...I think my Willow is a dun, although she's turning gray now. She has a dorsal stripe and leg barring. :) Thanks for the info.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
It's quite easy to check if she may be a dun. One parent need to have been dun. I none of them were dun, it's impossible for her to be dun. It's quite easy to rule out in case none were dun, in that way:) Sometimes breed can also rule out Dun. Many breeds doesn't have dun in their gene pool.

Grey horses tend to have dorsal stripes, even if they weren't dun to begin with. If you look through my gallery, there are a few of Itz where you can clearly see the false dorsal stripe of his. Leg barring is quite similar, and can also appear on grey horses. It might be easier to tell from an older photo of the horse and see what it looked like when it was at an early stage of greying out:)
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ksavvyx3 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
When she was a baby she was a red dun, and I believe her sire was that color as well. She's also a QH so I think they have the dun gene in their breed. :)

Anyway, she's almost gray now, but she still has a faint dorsal stripe (it was much darker when she was a baby). Thanks for all the info, I do appreciate it. :D
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Marshfeilds Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very detailed and helpful - Thanks for uploading that!
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Mearaz Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
Would this be a grey dun? [link]
I know that this colour is called "Gra", I don't know if that's just in Dutch or also in English.

Don't be fooled too much by the colour, this photograph was taken in the warm sunlight, the horse was grey. (much more grey than the other "normal coloured" Fjord).
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
Sure looks a lot like a Gra (basically a grullo/black Dun). Judging by that photo I would say that it is:)
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Mearaz Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
Ok, thank you for looking :)
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Schn3e Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2011  Student General Artist
Hi, do you know what colour is this: [link]
[link] ?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
Hm... looks like a sooty palomino te me, but I could be wrong:P
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Schn3e Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Student General Artist
Thanks, others say that too in dA,but in rl they say that it's a buckskin >.<
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
Hrm... I truly have a hard time thinking of that one as a buckskin, to be honest!:P I see no dark points of bland mane and tail...:/
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windscar101 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2010
Hey do you think If I sent you a picture of my horse. That you could tell me what she is. Her mother was a dun and her father a palomino. But she has a half strip, its very light and it only comes to the middle of her back.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010
sure, you could send me a photo or two, and I'll give it a try!:)
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windscar101 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010
[link]

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Here are two. I hope you can tell me. :)
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010
I'd actually want a second oppinion from someone on this particular horse, because I'm not really sure:P
That she's buckskin is clear, but wether or not she got dun as well is hart to tell from the photos. From the ones you linked to she looked a bit dun, but then I looked at some of the other in the gallery, where she looked more like a classic buckskin. The dorsal stripe could just as well be a "fake" dorsal stripe, which is something that I've seen inmany breeds, and from the photos you provided it's difficult to tell what it really looks like. There's also some odd lighting in many of the photos, which makes it a bit hard to tell.
I'd suggest that you'd go ask JNFerrigno, who's better at stuff like this than I am;)
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windscar101 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010
Ok well thank you. :)
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bovidaeloony Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2010
Thanks for seperating out fjords! Oddcolor fjords are very hard to find photos of, I don't think I've ever seen one as stock or under CC.
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achatinastock Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2010
Great idea i must say ^^
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Drunken-Cat Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010
hey you missed white-and yellowdun with fjords!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010
I mentioned them in the text, but since I didn't find any stock photos or photos under CC lisence I couldn't feature them.
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moonstruckdragonlass Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Oh this is absolutely fantastic! I knew absolutely nothing about horse colourations, but after reading this, I now know at least a little something!

Thanks for this super useful sheet! The Blue Duns are gorgeous, I've never seen that sort of colouration before!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010
hehe, glad that they could be to some use!^^ I didn't want to go into all the details - there are way better sites who discribe all the details - but I just wanted to show some of the different colors horses can have. Very glad that it worked as I wanted it to!^^

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WSTopDeck Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahhh, yes, Fjords are odd in expression. Given that they all have pangare everything is paler than usual. There is also a possibility that they carry 'wild bay' which further reduces the point color.

Brown Dun is equivilant to Bay Dun
Red Dun is Red Dun
Gray Dun is Grulla/o and probably Smoky Grulla/o
Uls Dun is Dunskin
Yellow Dun is Dunalino

The paler colors are caused by having a cream gene. There is also a discouraged color called Kvit which is a cremello, perlino, or smoky cream dun. [link] :)
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
They sure look very odd - at least when you compare to what other horses with the same set of genes look like.

Thanks for clarifying though! I sort of left out the genetics part, since I'm just so bad at shortening things down. You however managed to do it pretty nicely, I have to say!;)
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WSTopDeck Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, most definitely. They are quite different! Thanks to all that selective breeding ;)

Haha, I'm used to shortening it for non-genetics people frequently XD You should have heard my color genetics presentation that I did for my senior thesis! I think half my audience was completely lost anyway XD
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2010
But is it truly from selective breeding? From what I've understood, the fjords were at one point close to extinction, and the only individuals left were the dun ones, thereby causing the breed to be true duns. Have I got this all wrong?


hehe, well that explains your skill in making it sound so simple!;) Heck, I make everything sound too complicated!:P
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Love4Equines Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2010
Oh that one dunskin is so awesome! I'd never actually seen a horse with shoulder stripes before. ^^;...what was your first color ref page of?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010
Whe primitive markings sure look beautiful, and interesting as well.^^

My first fef chart was about Black and Red - the very base to all colors. I ended up adding bay and brown there as well.
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Love4Equines Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010
:thanks: Cool, i'll be sure to check it out sometime!
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MissHippieHorse Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010
oh there is also a dunlino. A perlino dun. They are so gorgeous!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2010
I've seen photos of them, and they sure are gorgeous!:D The only problem is that I didn't find any stock photos of them...:/
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MissHippieHorse Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2010
hehehehe that's alright! What you have here is gorgeous!
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