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Dilution Genes by Colourize-Stock Dilution Genes by Colourize-Stock
Got sick and tired of the appaloosa reference sheet I was making. I've now come to the conclusion that I officially have all spotted pattens... :P
You get a photo with a little poneh with tons of spots, and start to try to make out the different patterns. You see a snowcap, possibly leopard... no wait, is that a varnish head? Ok then, a semi-leopard. Oh no, there's some irregular spots there as well - possibly a spotted blanket then...? Argh!

So, therefore I went on to something a little more logical!^^
Dilution Genes!:D
Cream, champagne and silver, although I didn't even bother to add the pearl dilution, concidering that chances are pretty slim that I'll ever get my hands on photos of those.
It's however incomplete right now, but I'll try to find some perlino/smoky black/smoky cream to complete it.

Please respect that this is not a stock image. It may not be reposted or uploaded anywhere else.
These are just here to serve as reference for colors and names/terms.


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Chunga-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014
Heya, I have some photos of perlino if you are still interested;

chunga-stock.deviantart.com/ar…

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CherriesNBerries Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013
added your artwork here: helsinki-warmblood.deviantart.…
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xXSkittleSpittleXx Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what is a white horse with a black mane called?? ive been looking for 2 years now and no one knows...maybe you know! ^^;
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
A white horse with a black mane? Something like this: www.buyhorsesonly.com/photos/f…
That would be a grey horse. 


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xXSkittleSpittleXx Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ok thank you!!!
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DaytonaBot Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My Welsh Cob mare is a palomino so dark that she was originally though to be a flaxen chestnut. This changed once she started having palomino and buckskin foals. She is a rich reddish color with a very pale white mane and tail. Would she be considered a golden palomino, or a category all of her own?
www.twilfire.net/images/dark_p... <--- like this horse, but the mane and tail are entirely white. Plus, she has larger white markings :)
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
smoky cream:
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012
That's not a smokey cream I'm afraid - it's a silver one:)
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
it doesn't have dapples! xD I am awful in coat colors!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012
It actually doesn't have to have that visible dapples. It's common, yeas, but not all have them:)
Ah, well think positivly in that case - you can only get better!;)
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SUGARandSPICE1 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
lolz! Alright! xD It's like my poneh having an eel stripe! I only noticed it a year after I got him!
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Miyuva Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012
I always wanted to learn the colours, but I never felt like reading and understanding the wikipedia article with the bad pictures, so thank you. I think I start to understand how it works :)
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CriminalSpirit Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Very interesting and helpful :3 I love all the info, it's really easy to understand! Great photos to!

I've got a question that maybe you can help me with, I'm trying to figure out the exact name of the color of my horse. He's an arabian and looks bay yet he has striping on his legs and shoulders and the dorsal stripe and black points. The stripes on his shoulders and legs are more of a darker red rather than a black. It's hard to determine what type of dun he is because his coat is the shade of a typical redish bay, but he can get quite light in the summer, especially his belly gets a almost soft buckskin color.
I figured he was a bay dun, but there is not very much info on the color and the pictures I do find of "Bay Duns" look very much like a buckskin. He is a rescue horse so I don't have info on him but he looks and acts very much like a purebred arabian but some people try and say that he is not because pure arabs are not "suppose" to come in dun or buckskin.
Thought I'd ask someone who knew more on the subject and you seemed like the person to help. :3 Thank you, sorry for such a long tedious comment. :XD:

Here are some pics, although they aren't very good because my camera lacks quality. ^^;
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Charanty Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
Smoky cream: [link]

Perlino: [link]

Smoky black pearl: [link]

Palomino with Rare Pearl Dilution: [link]

cream pearl: [link]

Am i cool yet?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Haha, you certainly are cool!;)

The problem though isn't to find photos of the colors - there are plenty of them. The tricky part is to fins Stock photos of them - that on the other hand isn't easy at all!:P I need stock photos since I'm not allowed to use copyrighted material. I don't think that those you sent links to are stock photos unfortunatly...
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Charanty Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Perlino: [link] - stock photo site; maybe they have more.
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Charanty Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
Thanks)


Well, you should have mentioned that these should be stock photos.
I can try to search for stock ones.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
I thogth it kinda went without saying since you're never really allowed to use photos for anything if they are not stock photos:P
Thanks a lot for the link though!:)
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Charanty Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
Well, not in all countries people respect digital property.

Welcome.
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Xunau66 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for this great reference! I was wondering about the silver gene for a while and its hard to find accurate pictures of them if you don't know what to look for!
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LadyAyslinn Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2011
I love this, I think it's very helpful!
Anyway, I have some photos of a perlino akhal-teke mare, if you're interested :)
Check out here: [link]
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Ready-Or-Not Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I love these gene sheets you've made! Very helpful, and as I read through them I'm learning alot :)

Recently I was at a horse show and am pretty sure I spotted an amber champagne tobiano pony (not sure of the breed). I might have missed it if I hadn't read up on champagnes a little while back, he had the pink freckled skin on his muzzle and eyes and lighter reddish hues to his mane and tail. Of course I was all excited when I saw him up close and had a very difficult time explaining to my friends what the heck I was talking about xD Unfortunatly the camera was dead and I couldn't get a picture, he was very cute though :)
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Blueribboncowgirl Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2010
Hello, I was wondering if I could ask you a question about something that has confused me for a while? If you are looking at a sooty palomino and a silver buckskin, what is the difference in appearance? I can't figure it out and could use your help to answer my question :)
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2010
I think the easiest thing is to look at the legs. Most silver buckskins still got distinctly darker legs (can vary from almost black-looking to light red.) in comparison to the rest of the body, just like ordinary buckskins have. They are however very bleached, and got a lot lighter mane and tail with a red tint. This can of course change a lot between case to case. I can imagine that it might be more difficult to tell them apart if the silver buckskin has got a very distict sooty gene as well.
These are a few examples of what I'd concider classic silver buckskins: [link] [link] [link]

Sooty palominos tend to have lighter legs - most of the time they are even lighter than the rest of the coat. That's probably the most distinct trait. They also ten to be darker than most silver buckskin and have a more golden colour - although that's something that can vary a lot. But here are a few different exapmles. Compare to the silver buckskins: [link] [link] [link] [link] [link] See that no matter how dark of light they are, there's never any real black points, and always that red hint even if they alwost looks black? There's also a huge difference in hue an lightness of the coat.
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GoldEagleGraphics Featured By Owner May 15, 2010
I have a picture of a black silver appaloosa (?) pony with blue eyes, not uploaded, but if you want to see/use it I will upload. Also have a picture of a palomino pony that looks to be roan as well, if you want that. There was a horse that was probably a bay dun with rabicano at the same show but I don't think I got any pictures of him. I have a ton from that show so I'll see if I can find any other unusual ones, too.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2010
oh, sorry for the late reply...:/
But yes, I'd be very interested in having a look at that silver horse, if I may? I'm always looking for good photos for future projects, so I'd gladly have a look at yours, if I may?:)
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GoldEagleGraphics Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2010
Sure, sorry for my own late reply. Here it is...

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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2010
ok, I saved it on my laptop and will try to use it for the upcomming projects.:) Thank you so much for giving me permission to use it!
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GoldEagleGraphics Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010
You're welcome! If you can't use it, don't feel pressured to. I won't mind.
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kanudontkno Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2010
This is just freakin' AMAZING!!! I am extremely impressed! It's not only put together absolutely beautifully, but it's easy to read and understand... I learned quite a bit about horses that I didn't know before! One question though... How did you come to possess such a wealth of knowledge on the subject? Bravo and Well DONE!!!
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EquineStockImagery Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you so much for using my stock in this. :heart:
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jcspenny-stock Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2009   Photographer
This is a great reference. Thanks for using my stock. :aww:
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SpiritOfTheHorse Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2009
I live right next to, and am good friends with, a long time Paint breeder. One of her stallions is a cremello. He was bred to a black mare, but the result doesn't look anything like the smokey black your showing. She's never bred the pair, and never meant to (long story). I'll load a pick, maybe you could help us out! Also, as far as the perlinos go, the picture looks like a paint cremello. What's the difference? Just the red mane/tail?
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2009
oh, and I forgot:

It can be difficult to tell the difference between the cremello and the perlino. Perlinos usually got more red in the tail/mane and the legs. Since the chestnut color tend to be lighter than the black one, you usually can see a slight difference between the parts where the horse should have been black, and where it should have been red/brown.
Sometimes you actually have to either look at the pedigree of the horse to rule out that it's a perlino/cremello/smoky cream, or even test it for red or agouti factor to be sure.
This particular horse that I featured is registrated as a prelino, and definitely looks more perlino than cremello to me.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2009
I'd be really intherested in seeing the picture!:) Not sure that I can help you, but I could definitely give it a try. And If I can't, there are loads of way more skilled people here on DA that can have a look at it!;)

A cremello and a blak could theoretically give you
1) a smoky black
2) a palomino (if the mare carries both a black and a chestnut gene. The black one is the dominant one, and you'll therefore see only the black. However, it's still just as big chance that the foal will get the chestnut gene as the black one - 50%. If the cremello - who we know will always inherit one chestnut gene and one creme - is combined with another chestnut, you'll get a palomino.
3) a buckskin. Theoretically, the cremello could carry an agouti gene - the one causing black to become bay/brown - but it won't show since the cremello carries no black gene. It could still inherit the agouti gene to the get. If bred to a black mare - who we know got at least one black gene - the result could be a buckskin.
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SpiritOfTheHorse Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2009
well, this colt is definately not a palomino. At first we thought he was a buckskin, but he keeps changing colors! For some reason, I can't put his picture on my account... sorry. I'll try again with a different pic later
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2009
oh, the horse sure sounds interesting!

you could try to upload it on photobucket, if it doesn't work here on DA?
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templebar Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello i used to have a strawberry roan mare that had a black mane and tail what gene might cause that. So that would be chestnut hairs getting darker.
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
there's no dilution gene that I can think of that makes hair go darker. I'm afraid I cannot think of one.
Was he/she a liver chestnut, judging by the head and points? I've seen dark chestnuts with mane and tail so dark that they almost appeared black.

if not, then I'd look into the possibility of it being a bay roan. Were both parents chestnut as a base color?
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One-Sapientia Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
How awesome can you be? Thanks for calling it "Silver" not "Silver Dapple". =D This one is very, very good. My favorite way to explain Cream is like adding creamer to your coffee. The more you add, the lighter it gets!

But what's up with the head gear on the Conemara? Odd noseband...or maybe I need some of that coffee I mentioned...
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
oh, I haven't heard the comparison with milk and coffee before, but it definitely explains it well! Perhaps something I should add to the guide/sheet thingy...?;)

which one of the connemaras do you mean? There are a few to choose from:P
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One-Sapientia Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
The second buttermilk buckskin, it seemed strange when I first looked at it. Now I see the noseband. :p

And that is up to you, dear. It has always been one of my favorite comparisons, but you do what you want. =)
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Jorgeenah-Ebony Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2009
Wow, so helpful! (:
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WildGriffin Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2009  Student General Artist
Thank you. ^^ I've always had trouble with buckskin and cremello in particular.
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randomness224 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2009
I got a buckskin dun (light but not a buttermilk) and a silver dapple if you need any ^.^
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
just got to ask...;)
did you mean "a buckskin dun and a silver dapple" or " a buckskin, dun and a silver dapple". Buckskin Duns are genrerally referred to as Dunskin, and if that is indeed what you have then I'd be most interested in using it!^^ I've been looking for one for quite a while now;)
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randomness224 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009
Dunskin! That's it! I completely forgot what they were called lol

I'll send you some right away ^.^
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2009
oh, okey!^^ That's pretty much perfect though, because I really need one of those!:XD:
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iDoomz Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I could try to see if I can search for some of the colours that you dont have very much of. xD I find this to be very interesting hehe.
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